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Feb22

I Cast “Genus Maiestaticum”….at the Darkness

Posted In: WE Got Answers
I over heard this in a conversation between friends. If there is not an actual distinction between the divine essence and the divine attributes or energies, how can we teach the Genus Maiestaticum without concluding that the human nature has in fact become the divine nature? What does it mean?

-Q

Wow, Great question, Miss Q,

To be clear, it is an altogether false assumption that the Christian Church arrived at the true knowledge of the Person of Christ only in the course of time and that before the ecclesiastical termini were coined, this knowledge was lacking. Luther is perfectly right when he sets forth that the true doctrine of the Person of Christ, inclusive of the cornmunicatio idiomatum, was known and believed in Christendom from the very beginning, before any council passed any resolution, on the basis of the clear statements of Scripture. All that our Confessions teach concerning the Person of Christ every Christian knows and believes because it is found clearly revealed in the Word of the Prophets and Apostles.

The Christian believes that there are two natures in Christ, for he reads or hears that the eternal Son of God became man through the Virgin Mary (Gal. 4:4–5; John 1:1–2, 14). He does not doubt the unity of the Person, for he reads in Scripture that one and the same Jesus presents Himself as the Son of Man and the Son of the living God Matt. 16:13–17). He entertains no doubt about the real communion of natures, for Scripture tells him that the fullness of the Godhead dwells not beside, but in the human nature of Christ as in its body (Col. 2:9). He believes, on the testimony of Scripture, that the Lord of Glory was crucified (1 Cor. 2:8) and that this gives to the suffering and death of Christ its value (Rom. 5:10; 1 John 1:7). (First genus of the communication of attributes.) The Christian further believes, on the testimony of Scripture, that to Christ was given, here in time, according to His human nature, omnipotence, omniscience, etc. (Matt. 28:18; Matt. 11:27; John 3:34–35.) The thought is foreign to his mind that the omnipotence, omniscience, etc., of which Scripture speaks, may designate merely “finite, great gifts.” And when Christ promises His Church that He will be with her always even unto the end of the world (Matt. 28:20), he cannot but think of this theanthropic Savior as being present, not without and outside His human nature, but with and within it, i.e., he ascribes to Christ also according to His human nature omnipotence, omniscience, and, equally so, omnipresence. (Second genus of the communication of attributes.) And when Scripture states that the Son of God appeared in the flesh to destroy through His activity in the assumed flesh and through the assumed flesh the works of the devil and to save mankind (1 John 3:8; Heb. 2:14–15), the Christian understands this to mean exactly that Christ performs His official acts as Prophet, Priest, and King not beside, but in and through, the assumed human nature, i.e., according to both natures. He believes the una actio ?????????, even though the term may be unfamiliar to him. (Third genus.) He repudiates the notion that the finite is not capable of the infinite (finitum non est capax infiniti), for Scripture has convinced him that the Son of God did actually become partaker of flesh and blood, that therefore the Infinite has been united with the finite into one Person. This short summary, based on clear Scripture passages, contains the entire doctrine of Christ’s Person in its farthest reaches—and all of it is intelligible to every Christian.

That applies also to the theologian. As Seeberg correctly remarks, if one grants the personal union of God and man in Christ, he will necessarily have to teach the most intimate communion of the natures and the communication of attributes.

I would also re-read the Athanasian Creed again. It’s also helpful.

In His service and in yours,

–Brandt Hoffman
Anchorage, AK

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Feb22

Glorious Lutheran Alphabet Soup (Just Like Mom Used to Make)

Posted In: WE Got Answers
My question concerns the NALC and Lutheran CORE which have recently been formed as the result of the ELCA’s decision to begin ordaining homosexual clergy. What are the primary differences between the NALC and the LCMS? Obviously women in ministry, but beyond this, is there hope for unity between the LCMS and NALC? The LCMS on paper seems to have beliefs fairly similar to WELS concerning women in ministry, but in practice we are very similar (women speak and teach publicly in most LCMS churches). The NALC has reaffirmed adherence to the Confessions and a strong belief on the authority of the word of God.

-D

D,

Thank you for the question, I think in order to appropriately answer the question, we need to clarify a few things.

First, I think we should focus primarily on the fact that NALC as CORE is really not a church body, but an association of congregations and individuals seeking renewal in the ELCA. With that said, at the outset, we ought be very clear that there are many discussions going on within both of these groups about many of the points which follow.

Second, I’m not sure if it is possible to “affirm” his statement that we are similar in practice to the NALC. I would say that the majority of congregations in the LCMS do not allow women to speak or teach publicly in the way that Scripture forbids (eg. there is a very clear distinction between being an officiant, preacher, or liturgical assistant in the Divine service and being a Kindergarten Sunday School teacher).

Third, and this is primarily what I’ve gathered by talking to pastors in the NALC, that the status of Scripture and the Confessions is no different than it was in the ELCA in 1988. In other words, they allow for historical criticism and have a “quatenus” subscription to the Confessions and see them as “valid interpretations.” A “quatenus” subscription to the Lutheran Confessions is one that says that they accept the Lutheran Confessions “in so far as” they are in line with Scripture. This is in contrast to the view of historic Confessional Lutheranism which subscribes to the Lutheran Confessions “quia” “because” they are a true exposition of Scripture. With the former, it really amounts to a very subjective judgement of the Confessions with the result that any real authority or uniformity is lost. It should also be noted that this was the exact same language the ELCA used and still uses.

In addition to the clarifications (which also point out where the difference really lies),there is a huge difference in what is necessary for fellowship, which inevitably comes from their pietistic roots (I do not intend the word “pietistic” to be derogatory, but merely descriptive of their historical roots) which see a distinction in doctrine as “essential/fundamental” and “secondary” (or some other term).

Finally, that the NALC still has women pastors isn’t one isolated error, but really touches upon errors in the doctrines of Christology, sin, and justification. Whether this is a declared error or a flecitious inconsistency I am not sure. It is probably a mix of both, with variance from person to person. The a NALC pastor near me delivered a paper calling into question (from a Biblical and catholic standpoint) the doctrine and practice of women pastors.

Matthew Lorfeld, Pastor
Messiah Lutheran Church
La Crescent, MN
http://www.messiahlacrescent.org

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└ Tags: confessional subscription, fellowship, LCMS, NALC, scripture, women pastors
Feb21

Where the Wild Things Are

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Worldview Everlasting Greek Tuesday takes on Mark 1:9-15.
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Feb17

Raining Down Threes and Sevens

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Worldview Everlasting AskdaPastor2.0 takes on questions about the flood and 6 day creation.

Scoffers Scoffing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_BzWUuZN5w

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└ Tags: 6 day creation, adam, ark, Jesus, noah, six day, six day creation, worldwide flood
Feb16

I’m Pregnant!

Posted In: WE Got Answers
How much faith does one need to be saved?
G -

Let me pose a question in response. How pregnant does a woman have to be before she is with child?

It’s sort of an odd question – it’s not a question of amount, but is. Is the woman pregnant – if yes, then she is with child. If no, then she is not with child.

Likewise with faith – if one has faith, one is saved. That’s just it. Faith clings to Christ. Now, I suppose that we can say that if we grow in faith we are more grounded, that we are better prepared to handle the twists and turns that life throws at us… but it’s not the “size” of the faith that brings salvation — it’s the object of that faith, namely Christ Jesus.

Just as a woman who is an hour pregnant or 3 weeks overdue is pregnant either way, likewise a person who has the shakiest faith in Christ or the firmest faith in Christ still has saving faith in Christ… because that what Jesus does.

And here’s the real kicker — don’t worry about the size of your faith… focus your eyes upon Christ, hear His Word, receive His forgiveness, and your faith will grow, will be strengthened.

Let us fix our eyes upon Jesus, the author and perfector of our faith!

Rev. Eric J. Brown
Zion Lutheran Church – Lahoma, OK

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Feb16

Closing in on Closed

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Hey Pastor Fisk! I was wondering if you could explain the LCMS practice of Closed Communion?
Well, we could reinvent the wheel, but it’s been pretty well invented here:

http://www.trinitymarseilles.us/Trinity_Ev._Lutheran_Church/What_We_Believe,_Teach_%26_Confess/Entries/2011/3/20_Examination_of_Communicants_%26_Closed_Communion.html

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Feb16

Reverent Worship

Posted In: WE Got Answers
I recently watched the Installation Service for Rev. Fisk. I am not a Lutheran, although I am studying the Book of Concord and all that I can find to yet determine my status. I am wondering why everyone bows at the Altar? What does bowing signify?
Hi G.,
Thanks for the question and blessings as you study the Book of Concord.

The reason Lutherans (and others) bow at the altar is because it is the focal point in the sanctuary for God’s mercy to us. Usually, there is a crucifix or a cross on or above the altar that pictures the sacrifice of Christ for our sin. God’s mercy in Christ flows to us from that cross through the means of grace: preached Word, Baptism, Absolution. And it is from the altar that we receive the most tangible and repeated proclamation of the Gospel in Christ’s own words, as He gives out His Body and Blood. In other words, we bow toward the altar where the cross is because we recognize what Christ has done for us and what He continues to do for us.

Pr. Timothy Winterstein
http://northprairiepastor.wordpress.com

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Feb15

Backing Up Into Election

Posted In: WE Got Answers
I am a little confused by the statement “election happens in the sacraments”. Could you explain that? Where does the bible connect election and the sacraments?

A

Dear A:

Excellent question. In John 3, Jesus connects Baptism to election when he says “Unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God.” In Matthew 26, as Jesus institutes his Holy Supper he takes the cup and says, “Drink of it, all of you, for this is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.” Election is made possible through the forgiveness of sins in the shed blood of Jesus Christ.

I pray this is helpful.

Yours in the Service of Christ,

+Rev. Jeffrey Ries
Zion Evangelical Lutheran Church of Tacoma, WA

Dear A,

To add to what Rev. Ries said, it is helpful to see election in the “rear view mirror” so to speak. That is we don’t try to peek behind the curtain of the hidden counsel of God trying to figure out if we are one of God’s elect. Rather, we look at God’s revealed activity. Ask yourself this: has God spoken through the proclaimed Word to me? Has God placed His name on me in Baptism. Has Jesus given me His body and blood to drink “for the forgiveness of [my] sins?” These are the things that faith clings to. These are the things where God reveals His will for you and me. So while God’s election/predestination happened “before the foundations of the earth,” we look to the revealed activity of God in Word and Sacrament… and in doing so it is then that we “see” God’s divine election.

Matthew Lorfeld, Pastor
Messiah Lutheran Church
La Crescent, MN
http://www.messiahlacrescent.org

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Feb15

REOS Redux: Hi Infidelity?

Posted In: WE Got Answers
To Pastor Eric Brown (Author of Reformation Eastern Orthodoxy Speedwagon):

I just wanted to send a quick note that the 2 issues causing me to look east are:

1- Paedocommunion. Historical, correct, abolished by papist
scholasticism, addressed by Luther but not condemned.

2- Bishops/Continuity. This is where the historical church is and always has been. The question isn’t are they the true Church- the question is are we?

J

J -

As for your thoughts, in order:

1 – Infant Communion is a practice that fell out of custom in the West. I’m not going to condemn it… I wouldn’t feel the need to introduce it. I think in American Lutheranism we have had a tendency to delay first communion much longer than necessary — in some respects this is a poor side effect from Pietism and exposure to Finney-esque decision theology. In some respects this is a conservative practice to make sure that the young don’t eat and drink to their damnation.

2 – Actually, historically speaking the Church hasn’t been with the monarchical bishopric as is presented today in Rome or the East — there was a development of the position as the Church grows. Now, to be sure, the Church has always had clergy and laity, but the exact form and structure isn’t as cut and dry historically as you seem to imply.

Moreover – I think the Augsburg Confession has a wonderful and simple (and historically accurate) definition of the Church – where the Gospel is preached and the Sacraments are Administered rightly (that is, in accordance with our Lord’s institution).

As there wasn’t a direct question, I don’t know what more to say, or if I covered what you were actually thinking about – but feel free to send in a follow up question if there is something else.

Rev. Eric J. Brown,
Zion Lutheran Church – Lahoma, OK

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Feb15

Bible Be-Reading

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Hi WE Team!

Thank you for all you do! Every time I try to read the Bible I get all bogged down by the task of it, overwhelmed by the size of it. How would you recommend approaching this? Would you go slowly and thoroughly or quickly? Would you use a schedule? Would you use aids to help in understanding? I always start strong but end up fizzing out. Thanks for your help!

D

D,

Great question! Actually I have exactly the same problem as you. There are a number of ways to tackle this. Probably the first place to start is what you already have in place in your life as a Christian: the Church’s calendar and lectionary. This doesn’t present a straight through Genesis-Revelation reading plan, but it helps us to see Scripture in light of its center Jesus Christ. Both the 3 year and the 1 year lectionary do this well and pick out many of the highlights. A good book, Ordering Our Days In His Peace by Rev. Heath Curtis on this is available from CPH. Along the same lines is a resource such as the Treasury of Daily Prayer

While one can adopt a “read the Bible in 90 days, 1 year, or 2 years” type plan (the Lutheran Study Bible has a schedule such as this in the front), I personally struggle with this due to my own lack of discipline. Instead I have found it works even better for me to tackle things in smaller chunks. Read a Psalm or two a day (and pray it) and then focus on one book, or even a small portion of a book. In fact, I once spent 6 months reading Malachi. I didn’t simply read through it once, but re-read it several times. I’ve done the same thing with the Gospels, rather than chopping them up into chapters, it’s great to hear each Gospel writer tell the story of Jesus all at once. This may take about 3 hours or so total for the longer Gospels, but you really begin to see the bigger picture.

Do know this, the study of God’s Word is a life long endeavor. If a challenge such as “read the whole Bible” seems too overwhelming, take it in smaller bites and concern yourself with the Word of God set before you this day. Luther’s last words scribbled on a piece of paper can be of great comfort:

1. No one can understand Vergil’s Bucolics unless he has been a shepherd for five years. No one can understand Vergil’s Georgics, unless he has been a farmer for five years.

2. No one can understand Cicero’s Letters (or so I teach), unless he has busied himself in the affairs of some prominent state for twenty years.

3. Know that no one can have indulged in the Holy Writers sufficiently, unless he has governed churches for a hundred years with the prophets, such as Elijah and Elisha, John the Baptist, Christ and the apostles. Do not assail this divine Aeneid; nay, rather prostrate revere the ground that it treads.

We are beggars: this is true.

Matthew Lorfeld, Pastor
Messiah Lutheran Church
La Crescent, MN
http://www.messiahlacrescent.org

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